March Mania Second Round: Ben And Bert Take Vacheron Constantin, Omega, Rolex, A. Lange & Söhne, Jaeger-LeCoultre and Grönefeld onwards

Ben and Bert see their original twelve whittled down to the final 2...

March 20, 2021

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Roll up, one and all; March Mania has reached its second round! At this stage, our eight competing writers get a rest. Rob and I have presented our weary warriors’ remaining four watches over the past four days, with each post featuring the winners of two first-round votes. After today we move onto the Sweet Sixteen, how exciting!

Here come the final four warriors from both Ben and Bert’s groups. The writers aren’t going head-to-head just yet, so the seedings attached to each watch stay put from the previous round. By the end of the week, we’ll be down to the final two from each initial group of 12 as we barrel towards the showpiece final. As always, what we need from you is simple: vote for your favorite watch and let us know why in the comments below. Remember, one lucky commenter will win a Hamilton Intra-Matic Automatic Chronograph, so the more your comment, the better chance you have.

Log in to your Fratello account and drop us a comment. Who did you vote for and why? What’s your prediction for the later rounds? Will one of the favorites take the crown, or will an underdog sneak over the finish line first? Only time will tell!

Ben’s Group:

(1) Vacheron Constantin Overseas Perpetual Calendar Ultra-Thin vs. Omega Seamaster 300 “Spectre” (4)

Vacheron Constantin Overseas Perpetual Calendar Ultra-Thin

It’s bold, it’s gold, it’s the Vacheron Constantin Overseas. It is probably my favorite gold watch still in the competition. It has comfortably walked its way to this round, with a 77% share of the last round’s votes against the Grand Seiko SBGN005. Grand Seiko as a whole has not performed as well as I expected in this competition. Still, with difficult match-ups against the likes of the Vacheron Constantin Overseas, it’s more understandable.

If I were a betting man, my money would not be on the Overseas going all the way to the final. I mean, I love a good underdog story and would love to see one of the outsiders clinch the competition, but with some big watches still in it, it’s a big ask. How will the Overseas fare moving forward? Well, it has to overcome another sleeper in this round…

Omega Seamaster 300 “Spectre”

That sleeper is, of course, the Omega Seamaster 300 “Spectre”. As he said in the last round, Ben thought this one might top his original group due to its Bond connection. The stylish and versatile watch found itself struggling against some of the other watches in the group, but it has doggedly fought through to this round. Deservedly so! In the previous round, the Seamaster 300 took out the Blancpain Air Command, taking 54% of the votes in a closely contested battle. Can it keep up the fight and take down the bold, gold destroyer that is the Vacheron Constantin Overseas, though?

March Mania: Second Round Proper — Ben — (1) V (4)

(2) Rolex Milgauss 116400GV vs. Jaeger-LeCoultre Master Control Chronograph ref. Q1538530 (3)

Rolex Milgauss 116400GV

Rolex continues to stake its claim as a serious contender for the March Mania crown (no pun intended). In the previous round, we saw it take on the Seiko SKX007, a match-up that many thought could be a real David vs. Goliath story. Could the Seiko do the dirty and beat out the Milgauss? Unfortunately not. As much as many of us wanted to see the first huge upset in the tournament so far, it was not to be. The Milgauss fans made a show of force and voted to give it a victory with 66% of the votes.

However, in this next match-up, it’s no underdog…

Jaeger-LeCoultre Master Control Chronograph ref. Q1538530

I quite enjoy a good sector dial, and the Jaeger-LeCoultre Master Control Chronograph is probably one of the finer examples out there. It’s a smart and classy watch from of the top dogs of horology. The last round saw it convincingly beat the Vertex Bronze 75 with 84% of the votes. It was a tough match-up and I really like both watches, but ultimately I voted for the JLC.

As the last watch from JLC in the competition, I hope to see it move through to the next round. I’m not sure if I’m meant to be impartial here? Oh well. My vote is for the Master Control Chronograph. Let’s be honest, it’s a sexier piece than the Milgauss (not the shame the 116400GV in any way), and it deserves to go through. Vote for this watch, and I owe you one (1) fictional pint.

March Mania: Second Round Proper — Ben — (2) V (3)

Bert’s Group:

(1) A. Lange & Söhne Datograph Lumen vs. Grönefeld 1941 Principia (4)

A. Lange & Söhne Datograph Lumen

March Mania has seen an incredible amount of discussion and conversation, which has been really heart-warming to see. I saw a helluva lot of love for the A. Lange & Söhne Datograph Lumen in the comments in the last round. That love translated into a 79% win over the Omega Speedmaster 345.0802. I know this is sacrilege here on Fratello, but it was nice to see the number of Speedmasters whittled down. I think the A. Lange & Söhne Datograph Lumen is probably one of my top five to go all the way, but first, it has to get past a tough competitor…

Grönefeld 1941 Principia

The Horological Brothers’ 1941 Principia was one of my favorites watches when this competition first began. Did I expect it to get this far? Perhaps not, but my faith has been restored now that I am writing about it at this point in the second round. The Grönefeld 1941 Principia is probably one of the finest examples of “business in the front, and part round the back”. The watch’s dial side is pure class, but looking at the movement through the sapphire case back is pure enjoyment. Tim and Bart do a fantastic job finishing their movements, and a Grönefeld watch remains high up on my all-time grail list.

In the previous round, the 1941 Principia knocked out the Tudor Pelagos — a result that pleasantly surprised me. I had expected the Tudor to take the win, but 56% of you voted to take the Grönefeld 1941 Principia through to this round. Can it take out the A. Lange & Söhne Datograph Lumen? It’s a tricky one to get past, but anything is possible with March Mania!

March Mania: Second Round Proper — Bert — (1) V (4)

(2) Omega Speedmaster Speedy Tuesday 1 vs. Rolex Submariner 116610 (3)

Omega Speedmaster Speedy Tuesday 1

This is my favorite Speedy in the contest, so I am glad to see it still in the running at this stage. It performed admirably in the Speedmaster World Cup but couldn’t quite go all the way. Now, for March Mania, it is back and raring to go. In the last round, it beat the Seiko Prospex SLA039 with 75% of the vote. That’s a solid showing for a competitor that clearly means business.

The round will certainly not be a walk in the park, however. Things just get harder and harder. Now it’s facing one of the biggest hype watches in the biz right now…

Rolex Submariner 116610

Here we have it — the Rolex Submariner 116610. You want it, but you can’t have it. While it has been replaced by the new 41mm 126610, the 116610 remains one of the most popular watches of all time. Famous for its long, long waitlists, prices on the pre-owned market were eye-watering compared to the RRP. In the last round, it beat Omega Seamaster 2531.80 with 61% of the vote. If I’m being honest, I had expected a wider margin of victory, so maybe the hype train is starting to wear off?

Will enough of the Rolex faithful get behind the 116610 to carry it through to the Sweet Sixteen? I know I will be watching this match-up closely as I wouldn’t like to try and predict it at this point. It really could go either way!

March Mania: Second Round Proper — Bert — (2) V (3)

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AntonisCy says:

Mar 20, 2021 at 15:45

Things are getting serious… I am happy all my choices were in the majority.

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1. KirkMac says:
  
  Mar 21, 2021 at 00:40
  
  I am sorry, Sir! But your articulate and concise arguments do not sway my decisions.
  
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DaDutchCollection says:

Mar 20, 2021 at 15:50

Crème de la crème for Saturday, hein?

Thanks lads 😉

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1. Aldar says:
  
  Mar 20, 2021 at 18:22
  
  Exactement! Et que le meilleur gagne!
  
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  1. DaDutchCollection says:
    
    Mar 20, 2021 at 21:37
    
    ??
    
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Agnar says:

Mar 20, 2021 at 15:51

This was a hard one, but with some afterthought I concluded in this manner:

1. While the Omega 300 James Bond style is a pretty nice every day beater, I have to go with the horological craftsmanship and outstanding finishing gone into the VC.

2. Went with the Milgauss in its last round, but it does not beat the JLC in my book!

3. A. Lange & Söhne Datograph Lumen! What more is there to say! At least that beautiful Grönefeld 1941 Principia lost to a worthy competitor!

4. I get that the submariner is an iconic diver bla bla but it’s not the diver I’d opt for. Going with the speedy Tuesday here!

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1. The_Watch_Potato says:
  
  Mar 20, 2021 at 17:59
  
  Completely agree!
  
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2. Stijn7 says:
  
  Mar 20, 2021 at 21:17
  
  Same here 4/4 today!
  
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3. TM
  TAT2 says:
  
  Mar 22, 2021 at 14:41
  
  Pretty much nailed it.
  
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JP2111 says:

Mar 20, 2021 at 16:00

1. VC.
Exceedingly luxurious but still desirable.

2. Rolex.
My choice goes to the Milgauss, the Rolex ugly duckling, and I’m a little surprised by his actual weak score.

3. Lange & S.
Another killer watch from Glashütte.

4. Omega.
The game of banality a bit, Speedy vs. Sub. Like most this reverse panda than the new 911 of watches with a Date.

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DaDutchCollection says:

Mar 20, 2021 at 16:11

Second Round – Telegraphic biased pseudo-Proust commentator on the ringside:

Ben – (1) V (4) – Seamaster wins by KO on the 11th round, after cutting mercilessly its opponent, scars are sure to mark the VC’s bezel.

Ben – (2) V (3) – JLC wins by KO on the 2nd round with an electrifying display of class and balance.

Bert – (1) V (4) – Lange wins by a split decision of the judges.
Its bright florescent shorts are being questioned as an un-sportsman tactic.

Bert – (2) V (3) Speedy wins by KO on the 6th round consistently dominating the ring and the crowd’s affection.

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1. lvoky says:
  
  Mar 20, 2021 at 17:32
  
  Again, 2 out of 4… Business as usual 😀
  
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  1. DaDutchCollection says:
    
    Mar 20, 2021 at 18:06
    
    Hahaha we are becoming regulars at this score among us ?
    
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MRI2013 says:

Mar 20, 2021 at 16:14

Speedy Tuesday 1 number 1!

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Chronograph says:

Mar 20, 2021 at 16:17

Hi everyone.
This time, the challenges involve watches that are more similar to each other.
Between Vacheron and Omega Specter, I chose the former as it is the synthesis of sportiness, elegance and watchmaking complications! A real show.
Between Rolex Milgauss and JLC, for me the chronograph wins simply because it is the most beautiful of all.
Then I chose the Datograph … the Grönefeld could perhaps beat the worker Tudor Pelagos, but not Her Majesty Lange and Söhne.
The Omega Speedmaster Speedy Tuesday 1 is my favorite speedy …. if I have to choose which one to wear, I prefer it to the old Submariner 116610.
What do you think about ?
Have a good fun

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1. Aldar says:
  
  Mar 20, 2021 at 18:27
  
  I have voted for Speedies so many times already, that I decided to give a chance to the Sub this time. But clearly my vote will not help it 🙂 For the other votes, we are aligned 😉
  
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2. Agnar says:
  
  Mar 20, 2021 at 20:22
  
  4 out of 4 mate?
  
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MrBrad says:

Mar 20, 2021 at 16:20

Fun matchups today – 2 minutes daydreaming about being faced with the dilemma of choosing between the Datograph and a 1941 was great. For me it was Vacheron, JLC, the 1941 and the Speedy moving on!

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1. DaDutchCollection says:
  
  Mar 20, 2021 at 18:10
  
  I think you framed it perfectly ?
  
  This maniac of a month here is all about these daydreaming dilemmas ?
  
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mrudofker says:

Mar 20, 2021 at 16:30

VC is just sick. Every time I see it I can’t imagine what will beat it. Maybe the price…

JLC packs too much for the milgaus to stand up too.

Lange is just packing too much heat as well.

Had to give the last one to the Sub because it is iconic and there are too many Speedmasters in the bracket.

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1. Aldar says:
  
  Mar 20, 2021 at 18:30
  
  Maaan, I’ve got the same votes and my reasoning to vote for the Sub was exactly the same as yours! Good to see that I was not alone in my votes 🙂
  
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Krupec says:

Mar 20, 2021 at 16:36

This seems to be a quite clear and straightforward round (a part from the last match up).

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Lillatroll says:

Mar 20, 2021 at 16:36

I think the Lang has an unfair advantage because we only get to see the backside of the opposition. Would be shocking if the rolex won against the speedy tuesday. I expect to see a few speedies battling it out with the other usual suspects.

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1. DaDutchCollection says:
  
  Mar 20, 2021 at 18:22
  
  Let’s see which backside wins Miss Mania 2021.
  
  I will not be able to scratch thought for the rest of the championship…
  
  Blessing or a curse?
  I can’t decide…
  
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2. Agnar says:
  
  Mar 20, 2021 at 20:24
  
  Back side of that ALS would only increase its overall score-:)
  
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ElkoW says:

Mar 20, 2021 at 16:53

Speedy Tuesday is a lock for the final four ✔️

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1. Aldar says:
  
  Mar 20, 2021 at 18:31
  
  I wouldn’t bet my money on Speedy Tuesday in its next fight against that Datograph… 🙂
  
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Kim K. says:

Mar 20, 2021 at 16:59

Wow, now that was easy.. VC, JLC, Lange and Omega all day long

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stumpelriltzchen says:

Mar 20, 2021 at 17:08

This was an easy round in my mind … except the Dato vs Grönefeld. I went for the Grönefeld, but I’m not sad that the Dato made it. Honestly, I would love to wear any of these watches, they are all gorgeous. Except, maybe, the modern Sub. That’s not my thing.

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lvoky says:

Mar 20, 2021 at 17:30

Again a very tough one, even though that except the Speedy Tuesday, there are not really any of my favorite watches. But maybe it makes the voting more interesting. So, here we go:

That Vacheron Constantin is a beast. So many complications, the gold, it has everything. But throughout the whole competition, I just didn’t get used to its magnificent presence. I have a hunch that I’ll have to, tough. Not that I dislike the look of it, but i still think its too much and I wouldn’t wear such a watch. So I’m going to go with the much more subdued Omega here.

The second pair is even more difficult for me. Milgauss is by no means my favorite Rolex, but there is some charm to it, I musts admit. The JLC has maybe a bit too vintage vibes for me, but boy, it is just an amazing watch. So what decides? Well, my most favorite type of watches are everyday sportswatches, so then I’ll give it to the Milgauss.

Third couple, Lange vs. Grönefeld, a master of the masters agains a great surprise of this whole fight. As much as I love and respect Lange, my horse from that stable is the Zeitwerk, so I’ll side with the Principia here.

And the last couple – well, I already said that the Speedy is my favorite, so there it goes (plus I already voted for one divewatch today 🙂 ).

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1. Ron_W says:
  
  Mar 20, 2021 at 18:12
  
  Good call on the Principia and the better Lange of the 2 !
  
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2. DaDutchCollection says:
  
  Mar 20, 2021 at 18:17
  
  Got your belly full with only one diver?!
  
  I get it, some are more difficult to digest ??
  
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  1. lvoky says:
    
    Mar 20, 2021 at 20:29
    
    @DADUTCHCOLLECTION Yep, full 😀 I mean, I have one divewatch in my collection, one more is on the way and there is one I’m eyeing for a future purchase, but that’s it. Even the greatest of the great are somehow a bit difficult to digest for me, sometimes 🙂 No “big name” diver on my dreamlist, that tells the story, I guess.
    
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    1. DaDutchCollection says:
      
      Mar 21, 2021 at 00:16
      
      Ah ha! We are aligned on the divers!
      
      I got one, another is coming in April and I’m eyeing one too.
      
      There we have, aligned since the beginning after all ?
      
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3. Aldar says:
  
  Mar 20, 2021 at 18:35
  
  @LVOKY: man, our votes are completely opposite, 0% match 🙂 But I respect your choices and arguments!
  
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  1. lvoky says:
    
    Mar 20, 2021 at 20:21
    
    @ALDAR Ha ha, yeah, I looked at your choices and your argument make sense too 🙂 It just shows how difficult and also insubstantial the choice sometimes is. I mean some of my calls were very close, very (not on the Sub thoug, sorry 😉 ).
    
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  2. DaDutchCollection says:
    
    Mar 20, 2021 at 21:36
    
    We have been keeping an eye on each other, I think for 2 weeks now, and we can’t get in full alignment ?
    
    Just goes to show there’s plenty to choose from, for all tastes and vibes.
    
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dariosss14 says:

Mar 20, 2021 at 17:35

five numbers rolex are better than six

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Plecren says:

Mar 20, 2021 at 17:59

Easiest one yet.
VC smashes movie tie-in.

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ULFR. says:

Mar 20, 2021 at 18:01

1. Overseas vs. Spectre: overcoming my cringe at the sight of gold, the former seems like the more meticulously crafted contraption. Afraid the mention of a version in steel was only hypothetical 🙁 Broad arrows are just not my cup of tea, as is product placement, i.e. film characters endorsing stuff, my appreciation for Craig giving Bond a tad more of the old ex-SAS touch not withstanding.

2. Milgauss vs. Master Control: is there anything to Rolex apart from artificial scarcity? Their designs do not really agree with me, either — apart from the black sheep, namely Air King and Milgauss, maybe — so this was no easy choice, either. Looking closely, I’d pick the Jaeger over the Rolex by visuals alone.

3. Datograph Lumen vs. 1941 Principia: tough one. Both equally out of my league, by a few lightyears. The Principia has this modern overhaul of an oldfashioned simplistic design, only to smash the smart understatement with the bling of gold, which I’m willing to overlook for once. The utter shock-and-awe campaign of fine mechanics that is the Datograph is almost pornographic, in a non-judgemental way. When it comes to peeking at the time, though, it yields similar risks to those of a smartphone, except the distraction will be attention to detail and fine craftsmanship instead of unanswered messages. Hours may pass, you forget what you were doing long before you resurface from the depths, and you still don’t know what time it is 😀

4. Speedy vs. Submariner: easy. Hyped broken dial with a loupe on top? Speedy it is, sir!

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The_Watch_Potato says:

Mar 20, 2021 at 18:04

Phenomenal list of watches…can’t go wrong with any of them! But for the sake of the competition, went for VC for its perfect combination of luxury and horological prowess.

Milgauss is great but to me, this JLC is way superior and doesn’t hurt that it look so good too.

Lange Lumen is such a heavy weight that there is no shame to losing to it for any timepiece.

And lastly, cannot say enough how much I love the design of this Speedy Tuesday.

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Plecren says:

Mar 20, 2021 at 18:06

Try again (bloody phone!)
VC easy win
Ride The Lightning Rolex
Easy win for amazing Lange
Speedy Tuesday

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1. Agnar says:
  
  Mar 20, 2021 at 20:28
  
  If it had actually been a collaboration piece I might have gone with Ride the Lightning.
  
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Ron_W says:

Mar 20, 2021 at 18:11

Oh My, what a line up. I am gonna lose a few match-ups here but i am sticking to my principles.

The VC OPC UT , with a name like this you can expect something special. And it is ! Truly phenominal to build your own Perpetual Calendar, even more to make it Ultra Thin which is, production wise, a marvel in itself as you need to stay within such tight margins . Makes F1 engine tuning look silly. But in Gold ?? and with a Blue dial ?? IN YOUR FACE and that is not for me. The complications can handle the ride comfortably on their own – no more need to shine.
Cheers for the humble, in this crowd !, but solid and stealthy Spectre, a still very Under appreciated watch compared to a silly TinTin for example. ( Boy those pickled pickles can really upset your acid balance….) And it comes with a cool 12 H bezel and sub-zero Lolli-Pop as well so, go James !

Milgauss vs Jaeger-LeCoultre, two of the biggest names ( JLC has more letters ) in the business, Behemoth`s and Juggernauts, what can you say ? While JLC gets my credits for their movement Histoire this design does not work for me. So i feel compelled to give the Milgauss a chance here for color innovation and durability. But i prefer the 1019 Milgauss if it comes to the money question. I hope it wont…..

Easy win for Gronefeld, out of principle as it is a Dutch brand, and it is truly Haute Horology with their style of finishing, killer KV dials, and they are really nice guy`s too. I could go on but there is no reason to waist any words on the other watch as it is slamm dunked out-o-here. And do have a closer look at the 1941 movement design if you also like art !

Tuesday`s got me into this crazy passion, and it even makes me somewhat of a writer now as i am dangerously close to hitting 5000 words this week, Fratello shakes and shivers…. , but i too was once a proud owner of one Speedy with a panda dial , and later found out it was named after some Japanese guy and highly collectable, and worth one of them premiums i always here about but never get. Neither with my watch… but thats all in the past, Speedy are fun and functional watches and no need to mess to much with the design etc as your ST1 perfectly shows, and this Alaska radial really put you guy`s in Stratosphere territory were you now reign Supreme so a huge win and vote from me!! Sub ? What Sub ?? A Sub is by far the most over hyped ` diver suitable for office wear ` and other occasions as long as it is not in water. In my informed opinion of course ? .

Lost the battle here but hanging on for the finals. Thanks and enjoy the weekend !

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Aldar says:

Mar 20, 2021 at 18:20

Here we are – the last day before we get to the sweet sixteen! And what a day it is with some very heavyweight hitters.

(1) I really like that Omega Bond Spectre watch, but honestly that gold Overseas is growing on me every day. The combination of that rose gold with dark blue dial is just perfect and despite the complications, the dial is easily legible.

(2) I am not a fan of current Milgauss model (the vintage Milgauss from the 50’s with rotating bezel just looks so much nicer!). So my vote goes to JLC for their heritage and craftsmanship.

(3) Lange Datograph without any hesitation!

(4) Oh man, this one was really tough. I really like that Speedy Tuesday and on the other hand it’s hard not to vote for the watch that made the history and set the standards in the dive watch segment. After long hesitations, I thought that I already voted for so many Speedmasters in this March Mania, so gave my vote to the Sub.

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1. DaDutchCollection says:
  
  Mar 20, 2021 at 21:32
  
  Solid choices mate, always hitting hard and above your weight ?
  
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KirkMac says:

Mar 20, 2021 at 18:44

I’m happy that my votes were all over the place. Some in the majority, some not so.

When I saw the Vacheron Constantin as I scrolled down, my first thought was “OhMyGod, No!” VC makes some artfully gorgeous timepieces but the OPCUT seems like they tried to cram all of their art into one case. So much printing! So much gold! But I must admit it is beautiful (In a very frenetic manner!) This Seamaster on the other hand is a drab and dreary example of Omega’s design output. Please, no more faux-patina! It washes out the dial into a low-contrast mess that the boring bezel isn’t helping with. I know the broad arrow has a place in history, but it seems so cartoonish. And it’s a shame to release a limited edition watch on a $10 piece of striped nylon ribbon. Vote: VC OPCUT

I’ve always had a soft spot for the Milguass; here was a tool watch designed for a specialized environment. From my perspective, no different than a diver or Moonwatch. However, with the advent of co-axial movements and nonmetallic hairsprings and other parts, the Milguass has become an anachronism within the anachronistic watch industry. Love that second hand; Rolex needs more whimsy! But I voted for the Jaeger-LeCoultre MCC because it is everything that I want in a chronograph. The dial seems so organic flowing from one circle to the next. The sparse use of numerals helps keep the dial from becoming overly crowded. Having the tachy scale under the crystal allows for a clean bezel. Vote: Jaeger-LeCoultre MCC

This is a tough one! Two beautiful examples of horological art! The A. Lange & Söhne Datograph Lumen is an amazing intersection of art and science! As is the Grönefeld 1941 Principia! I’m going with the Grönefeld because I love an underdog, the design and finish is exemplary and AL&S is getting my vote for their other watch.

For the final match I’m going with the Omega Speedmaster Speedy Tuesday 1. Two opposite ends of the product innovation spectrum. I am so over Rolex. The Submariner is a stagnant holdover from a long past time of new ideas. What was the big design change for the decade? They bumped it up a millimeter? Oh my! The gnashing of teeth and pulling of hair! Omega on the other hand provides its fans with specialized limited editions. I’ll admit that the Speedmaster hasn’t changed much since 1969, but at least they are working to keep it in flux. Vote: Speedy

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Steve Greene - says:

Mar 20, 2021 at 19:02

All the watches are great but I’m finding it pretty easy to vote for my favorites, so far. I know this will get tougher as the rounds move on . . .

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Chrom74 says:

Mar 20, 2021 at 19:51

Omega Speedmaster will make it. Sure!

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Warky says:

Mar 20, 2021 at 20:04

Strange one today for me as I have a bit more love for Rolex watches than it appears is the norm on here! I think I am right in saying there will be no Rolex representative in the later rounds now. I am not sure that reflects the quality and design of their watches. I suspect the backlash against their (miss?)treatment of customers and potential customer is catching up with them. So I voted for the Z Blue (I have one and it’s my favourite watch in my collection?‍♂️). I also voted for the Sub – but I didn’t expect it to have a chance against the Speedy Tuesday.
For the others that VC is just pure gold and blue sex. Would I wear it? Hell no. Is it absolutely gorgeous? Hell yes! The Spectre is my favourite “Bond Watch” but I couldn’t seriously pick it over the Overseas.
I actually love that Gronefeld – but as I have said before the Datograph is a watch I see as a potential winner along with the Zeitwerk and that glorious Antarctique. So and easy but sad choice for me in that match up.

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1. Ron_W says:
  
  Mar 21, 2021 at 15:09
  
  “ I suspect the backlash against their (miss?)treatment of customers and potential customer is catching up with them. “
  Spot on and nail on the head. Really good watches but an awfull understanding of how to take care of your end customers.
  
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jtechico says:

Mar 20, 2021 at 20:10

All underdogs in this round!

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jtechico says:

Mar 20, 2021 at 20:13

The more simple, less complication watches won out for me.

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C0ders says:

Mar 20, 2021 at 20:31

Speedy v Submarinar. Never seen these two up against each other. The Speedys dial has so much more character than the Sub. Sorry Rolex.

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C0ders says:

Mar 20, 2021 at 20:33

The Omega is so more wearable than the Vacheron in my opinion. Speedy v Sub – Speedy dial has so much more character. Another great battle.

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Roger Caleya says:

Mar 20, 2021 at 20:38

Nice selection!
The pairings are a bit odd though. A gold VC against a steel Omega diver? Personal preferences on a type of watch, not the watch itself, might get in the way…

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Maitre says:

Mar 20, 2021 at 21:05

I’ll take the Sub. Ya’ll can have the rest.

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  jgibson80 says:
  
  Mar 20, 2021 at 23:19
  
  Deal!
  
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Stijn7 says:

Mar 20, 2021 at 21:12

Some heavy hitters this round, but still no inner torn decisions to make today.

The Vacheron takes the “gold” over the Omega spectre, it’s just in another league with it’s movement, complications, and finish, go bold or go home in this case.

Next goes to the Jaeger-LeCoultre, love the clean design and understated class, the milgauss isn’t really my cup of tea, easy pick.

I hope A. Lange & Söhne is going all the way to the final, really love the Grönefeld and it deserves to be here with the big dogs but it met it’s match facing the Datograph and there is no shame in that.

Than the rolex, such an icon, if you look up watch in the dictionnary you’ll probably see a picture of the submariner, but still I went for the speedy tuesday, my favorite speedmaster.
Why I can not say, that little voice in the back of my head maybe that’s screaming ” go speedy go! “

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DGTime says:

Mar 20, 2021 at 21:52

Vacheron Constantin Overseas Perpetual Calendar Ultra-Thin vs. Omega Seamaster 300 “Spectre”

Voted for Omega for being a more accessible one. Vacheron Constantin is a marvel, but I never see myself wearing one.

Rolex Milgauss 116400GV vs. Jaeger-LeCoultre Master Control Chronograph

Easy vote for Jaeger here. Even if I am not touched by the Rolex hype, Milgauss is one of the Rolex I kind of like.

A. Lange & Söhne Datograph Lumen vs. Grönefeld 1941 Principia

That is a really tough decision since I love both, and feeling that is totally unfair to eliminate any of them. My vote goes with A. Lange in the end.

Omega Speedmaster Speedy Tuesday 1 vs. Rolex Submariner 116610

That was a difficult choice on a different reason. I don’t want to upset nobody here, because I know the Speedmaster and the Submariner are a cult here at Fratello, but I really cannot feel the same hype. I am still convinced that those watches (mostly Rolex I must say) are overvalued. So in the end voted for the watch which I consider is better ranked in terms of value for money: The Speedmaster.

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  jgibson80 says:
  
  Mar 20, 2021 at 23:19
  
  Totally agree with all your points. The only difference for me was a votes for the Milgauss but really thought hard about it. And now regretting that pick. Thanks for the commentary!
  
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Art_Vandeley says:

Mar 20, 2021 at 22:15

Dave, your commentary was spot on. I couldnt agree more. The aesthetic of the vacheron overseas runs with the best of ‘em. Lange lumen is a gorgeous watch and one of those watches that you could stare “under the hood” for hours. The two subdial jlc is the perfect dial for a chrono and honestly… how can you not vote for speedy tuesday on Fratello… #WATCHMADNESS

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oakala09 says:

Mar 20, 2021 at 22:22

Fun round; VC is in a whole different class, but it’s still just beautiful; the JLC is an amazing watch also, love that sector dial; the Datograph Lumen is like a unicorn, always fun to see though; and The Speedy Tuesday rounds out my picks.

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ChuyWicho says:

Mar 20, 2021 at 22:55

I think my knowledge has been sharpened this 2 weeks. My choices aré not easy but at least i know a lot about high end watches

My votes

Vacheron
Jaeger
Lange
Omega

Disspaointed of no bronze watch made It to this round.

But good that lange AND sonhe datograph got my eye

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jgibson80 says:

Mar 20, 2021 at 23:17

These next rounds are going to be awesome!! Wow! Heavy hitters against heavy hitters! I still have the Speedy Tuesday as my favourite and hope it goes far. Voted Spectre over the Vacheron , which was the unpopular choice and I get it. But if all things were equal , I just see myself taking the Spectre. Call me an Omega homer. Great watches here. Would be happy to give any a loving home ..

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DaDutchCollection says:

Mar 21, 2021 at 00:07

Dr. P. Galore – MM report #20

Subject had a second consecutive productive day. His exceptional visitors’ regime has proven to have a positive influence on his behavior and in taming his social interactions. His self tattooing habit is also seen as a beneficial therapeutical practice.

Debates enthusiastically on the daily activities and actively participates in the group session mentioning – A kaleidoscope selection firmly planted in past influences, yet, truly embedded into the very fabric of contemporary perceptions. Curious that we keep looking back, to find our stance in the present, while coveting for the near future.

The session mediator covers his face and sighs profoundly before repeating the question: Frame on the date window or no frame on the data window?

Diagnosis: Inconclusive.

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Sean says:

Mar 21, 2021 at 00:14

I have my finalist picked

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Steve says:

Mar 21, 2021 at 04:26

The VC is pure perfection ?

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Steve says:

Mar 21, 2021 at 04:33

I’m basing this purely on what I’d like to own and wear, and my god would I like to own and wear the VC.
Here’s hoping it will come out on top?

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Alexander says:

Mar 21, 2021 at 06:10

I voted for the hours I would have chosen for myself. For the ones that just make me happy when I put them on my wrist.

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MrTeach says:

Mar 21, 2021 at 08:09

Mhmmmmmm Speedy ?

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Jason Panos says:

Mar 21, 2021 at 08:34

Some interesting match ups…

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Rusty says:

Mar 21, 2021 at 08:36

This was as tough as a 3$ steak.. phenomenal matchups… kudos to the victors !

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kyle1972 says:

Mar 21, 2021 at 09:53

Batting .500 on this one vis-à-vis voting with the majority.

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Mafrazel says:

Mar 21, 2021 at 10:15

Ooohhh, what a nice collection.

In the first comparison for me it’s a clear win of complication and thinness over the Bond fascination.
VC takes my vote without being one of my favourite brand, but by offering such a wonderful piece. Thinness matters!

The Rolex vs Jaeger LeCoultre question is relative easy to answer.
I really like the way JLC is combining retro elements and creates contemporary,elegant look. The Milgauss is carrying an interesting history, but tool watch proportions and polished surfaces are not my favourited combination.

With the third duet it’s time to say a tearful goodbye for Grönefeld. It’s hard to sort out such a beauty. Wonderful proportions, well executed details and a lot of sympathy for the small brand.

But the contender is one of the strongest pieces in today’s watchmaking, a poster boy for Wempe Trainees and a super model for all haute horlogerie lovers.
This is how a high end watch in the 21st century should look like.
Not to be misunderstood, in real life I’m a fan of simple but well executed hand wound “Kleinodien”, but such an over the top breathtaking piece has to join the final in a competition like March Mania!

Back to earth (and moon) with the battle of the battles, Rolex vs Omega, Space vs Deepest Waters, Speedy vs Sub.

My vote goes with the Speedmaster. I like her story and the fact that she never looked outdated. If I have to buy one, I would go for the latest update, but this one here is still strong enough to win over the – technically unquestioned competent – Submariner. The Sub has lost me once they introduced the shiny ceramic bezel. If the Rolex bit would have been an Explorer II, the choice would have been much harder.

So, thanks again for this game, curious to see the next voting list

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Erik says:

Mar 21, 2021 at 10:29

Well done

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DickMille says:

Mar 21, 2021 at 13:28

Heads will roll! Things are really starting to hot up. Truly onto the crème de la crème rounds of voting. I pretty much fell in-line with the general consensus with the exception of the Lange/Grönefeld match-up. Normally a Datograph would be a no brainer but the movement finishing on that (or any) Grönefeld is just unparalleled.

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lightspire says:

Mar 21, 2021 at 14:30

Fratell Rocks – Go March Mania!

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Carlos says:

Mar 21, 2021 at 14:33

Sad to see grand seixo off but… the remaining selection is amazing!

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dmac442 says:

Mar 21, 2021 at 14:53

If I bought the Vacheron Constantin, I would have no money left for a watch winder. So I would have to stay awake permanently to avoid resetting the thing. Still, I would also have no money left for food, so I wouldn’t need to worry about it for long. I voted for the VC, but the JLC is very handsome and a more practical favourite.

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Mark Nagy says:

Mar 21, 2021 at 17:00

I went with

Seamaster 300
JLC
Lange Datograph (of course)
Speedy

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Moustachio says:

Mar 21, 2021 at 23:02

From a quick eyeball of the comments it seems this leg of the competition has received the most amount of comments. All the players are loving the game! No doubt the mania will reach a fever pitch as we move on. Sad to see the sub go.

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Mallard20 says:

Mar 22, 2021 at 08:12

This was tough again. I preferred the Seamaster over the Vacheron basically ba tossing a coin. Likewise it was with the Grönefeld where my love for underdogs went in as well. The JLC and the Speedy Tuesday were easy choices though.

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cds86 says:

Mar 22, 2021 at 08:28

Omega, Millgaus, Gronefeld and the Sub 🙂 think i have a weird taste for watches ore so. all of my vote are in minority

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SonofMerv says:

Mar 22, 2021 at 09:22

ST1 versus the Sub. Someone’s going home.

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1. Rob says:
  
  Mar 22, 2021 at 12:19
  
  Got to be the ST1 moving on, surely?
  
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chilli4750 says:

Mar 22, 2021 at 11:58

The Speedy beats the Sub all day long for me. If it was a no-date Sub, however…..

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Emiel says:

Mar 22, 2021 at 12:12

Will there be a Rolex in the last round? How for will the Grönefeld brothers get? Will the Speedy triumph once again? (in any form?)

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itsnotjustabouttime says:

Mar 22, 2021 at 13:07

It’s getting hard to choose… the real big players getting aligned…

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matt says:

Mar 22, 2021 at 17:01

getting closer to the win!

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seavers says:

Mar 22, 2021 at 17:24

I would have voted for the 114060 if that had been the Rolex option.

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mike kempter says:

Mar 22, 2021 at 18:19

Some of the pairings are not fair

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1. dave says:
  
  Mar 22, 2021 at 18:36
  
  Unfortunately that’s just the way seedings brackets go!
  
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Patrick Lapierre says:

Mar 22, 2021 at 19:11

choix & commentaires intéressants

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